In this episode, Trey Gordner and Stephen Bateman from Koios join Amanda and Michael to chat about startup opportunities in this space, the opportunity and danger of “interface aggregation,” the design of their new service Libre, and more.

These two were super fun to interview.


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Michael Schofield is a service and user-experience designer specializing in libraries and the higher-ed web. He is a co-founding partner of the Library User Experience Co., a developer at Springshare, librarian, and part of the leadership team for the Practical Service Design community.